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Full time work should entitle someone to enough pay for rent, food, bills, and leisure activities. Full time work for a full life wage. You put in your 8 hours a day, 5 days a week? You should be able to afford the basic shit you need in life, no matter where you work.

pisses me off that this is considered a radical statement.

I do agree with this but from economic standpoint if you are working at a job like McDonalds as someone flipping burgers and making fries you are getting paid for the amount of skill needed for the job. But if its any other job that requires you to have an actual skill that you can make a career out of then yeah you should be getting paid enough to live a standard life.

If you work FULL TIME you should be able to afford to fucking live. No, it doesn’t matter if it’s flipping burgers, these people contribute to our fucking economy and they MATTER. They should be allowed to be alive.

Jesus fucking Christ do you people hear yourselves?

People like this are why we can’t move on to issues like reducing how many hours is full time, or working out UBI.

We’re going to need to do that. Most people just don’t know what’s coming down the pipeline, without a major change to the structure of the economy, we’re looking at large scale permanent unemployment, even in the “skilled” labor force.

Also? Making food is a fucking skill. Running a fast food kitchen is a fucking skill. Operating a drive-thru is a goddamn fucking skill.

I do not know how to do these things. I have a masters degree and I have no fucking clue how to operate a deep fryer or make coffee drinks. I’d probably not be very good at it, because that kind of hands-on, fast-paced work is very hard for me.

But thankfully, there are people who are good at it, so I can do my job, and they can do theirs, and we can benefit one another by putting our skills to use in different areas. People who work in fast food are not less deserving of comfort and security in their lives just because their skills aren’t valued like they should be. That is a myth developed to deprive people of rights.

My friend works as a medical assistant and I’ve worked at McDonald’s and Starbucks. You know there’s a lot of things you gotta learn in this typa job?

Like in addition to it being physically demanding (standing up for 4-6 hours straight, carrying heavy ice/coffee, constantly getting burned by boiling water and an oven, a lot of reaching and squatting (like a lot a lot I lost 40 FUCKING pounds in a year okay this job demands a lot from the body)), there are actual skills required. Also your skin splits from using so much antibacterial soap.

Do you know what temperature different foods have to be to prevent contamination? If it’s a “cold” or “hot” plate?? Do You know how long food can be out before bacterial contamination can happen?? Do you know the difference between say 1% and heavy whipping cream? Can you teach a chemistry class using milk????? That’s p much what you gotta learn to be able to do. My friend who works as a medic was surprised, because I do more in my day than they do, and THEY told me that. They were shocked how much I actually do; I am on my feet more, talking to more people, I have a working knowledge of food germs food born illnesses and chemistry, I gotta do the same shit with sterilizing my tools the same exact way a doctor sterilizes theirs. Etc etc.

There’s no such thing as an unskilled job. There are only undervalued skills.

“There’s no such thing as an unskilled job. There are only undervalued skills.”

Okay, let’s brake this down. How long does it take to train someone to work fast food? What are the repercussions of that person fails to do their job?

Now, how long does it take to train a structural engineer? What are the repercussions if they fail at their job?

How long does it take to train a plumber? What are the repercussions if they fail their job?

How long does it take to train a ditch digger? What are the repercussions if they fail their job?

Someone of these things are not like the other, some of these things a little more important then the others.

“If you work full time you deserve a living wage”

No you dont. You deserve to be paid according to the value you bring to the job/company/economy. If you do not want to upskill and increase this value, that is your problem.

Idk, I personally think eating is pretty important to but that may be just me

“Okay, let’s brake this down. How long
does it take to train someone to work fast food? What are the
repercussions of that person fails to do their job?”

It can take weeks, and the repercussions are: SOMEONE DIES. Yes, if your food is not properly prepared, YOU CAN DIE.

“Now, how long does it take to train a structural engineer? What are the repercussions if they fail at their job?” It can take a few years, and someone dies

“How long does it take to train a plumber? What are the repercussions if they fail their job?” Weeks, and society completely shuts down. Did you know that? A plumbers job is so important that society depends on them almost entirely? All waste management jobs are vital to society. Smaller scale though, someone loses their home, valuables, or lives.

“How long does it take to train a ditch digger? What are the repercussions if they fail their job?” Days, and massive flooding, crop loss, and famine.

“Someone of these things are not like the other, some of these things a little more important then the others.”

Idk, seems like the importance being weighed on repercussions means these people are still pretty important. @pfcanimal @az-a-riel

Also, you cannot demand a service, like safe, fast food that tastes somewhat good, while simultaneously demanding the people providing you with said service starve, fail to keep a roof over their head, and never be permitted higher education should they choose to seek it.

And yes, people working full time DO in fact deserve to earn a wage they can live off of, why do you feel people deserve to DIE simply because they happen to work at McDonalds? Like, do you honestly believe most people there WANT to be? Nah, we work these jobs because we have no alternatives. Most of us would like to upskill, but your logic is unless we pay to educate ourselves with money we do not have, we don’t even deserve to eat food or have a place to live. How, precisely, do you believe people can afford higher learning if they don’t even earn enough to LIVE? Why do you think a system like that would ever work? Where is the logic in the idea that you should educate yourself before being permitted BASIC HUMAN NEEDS being met, and how do you suggest they go about “upskilling” when they can’t afford to EXIST in the first place?

“There’s no such thing as an unskilled job. There are only undervalued skills.”

I’m shocked at the idiocy on this post claiming that people who only work jobs like McDonalds don’t deserve a living wage, utterly retarded, so here’s some screenshots for you all from Australia.

This means that in the land of the free, you earn less than an average Aussie stoner does working at Maccas or Hungry Jacks.

For further proof of how hard it is to support yourself in America.

You guys only get $7.25/hr, which equates to AUD$9.21, that means that the stoned surfer working at maccas in Australia is earning nearly twice as much as someone over there on average.

Land of the free my left nut.